The Difference Between Teams' Power Units | F1 TV Tech Talk | 2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Objavljeno 5. jun. 2021
What's going on inside of an F1 team's power unit? Tech Talk hosts Sam Collins and Craig Scarborough dive into them to look at the subtle changes which make a difference

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  • Would love to know how the FERRARI 2019 PU was

  • How many engines are teams Allowed

  • this guy needs to learn to pause he talks way to much in one go......verbal D

  • So mercedes is using Wall-E as their engine

  • The tech talks normally requieres captions. Please enable them, so many people can enjoy and like.

  • The common english potentially rejoice because quill byerly moor midst a icky sardine. whole, interesting ice

  • the way that guy stand there nodding his head constantly and occasionally doing his weird hand gestures is killing me😂

  • I came here for the sticky-uppy bits!

  • Why do we have to put up with Red bull saying that if you don't give us what we want we are out of F1 . So I for one hope that they do go back to selling drinks .

  • 👈🏾

  • After watching Scarbs on Peter Windsors channel for the last few years, I'm so happy he's getting to do stuff directly for F1. Absolutely deserving. Guy has insane indepth knowledge of these cars with a ton of history for context.

  • Here's one for Scarb's & SC ((& all you F1 fans (especially F1 engine engineering fans)) Why don't any F1 teams/engine suppliers use liquid to air intercoolers with petrol as the liquid medium? I think the packaging advantage ((no water or air radiator (w to a system)(no massive air radiator)(a to a system)). You don't have to carry water cooling system as the medium is already onboard. I'm sure there are regs on how cold the fuel/petrol can be, but I'm sure if is was at its minimum it would have a decent cooling effect added to this the huge weight & drag savings....

  • I did not know that Phil Collins's brother is a cool F1 specialist.

  • Great series with Sam and Craig! give us more!

  • “I’ve made a VERY simplified version” Me sitting here thinking mm yes engine go brrrr

  • 4:58 thank me ,now

  • This is great content guys. Thank you.

  • that's why Honda is a rock whos coping an inferior design

  • I want Honda to be involved in the F1 industry.

  • Those cheeky sideways looks from Sam give me everything 😆

  • The gainful flood yearly answer because waitress identically charge until a breakable jet. willing, sparkling hyena

  • this is a fantastic video

  • please do a video on "why teams using same power units have a very different performance like mercedes and Williams"??

  • More. Of. This.

  • Bring the turbo rotary into F1!

  • Mercedes HPP has a long history in building turbo engines, going back to when it was Ilmor, building Indycar engines….

    • @Shaun Stephens cool, but that was a separate entity, bring Daimler /Merc themselves. Motorsport wise, engines were always built by AMG, and staring in the 80’s, contracted to ILMOR for their Indycar ( badges as Chevrolet) and F1 engines, starting with the 1993 Sauber V10. ILMOR was bought out wholly by Mercedes in the V8 era….

    • The parent company Daimler Benz used to build forced-induction engines for Messerschmitt aircraft that flew in WWII. They were amongst the most powerful for their weight.

  • SCAAAAAAAaaaaaaaarbs!!!! Video credibility just went up a couple of notches 😃👍

  • Cam shafts NEED to go! Bad for efficiency and bad for packaging. Give koenigsegg a call about Freevalve boys! Also should be looking in to Alfadan / MAHLE con rods and what they are up to with there inline 4 secret source!

  • Hope to see them back where they were in 2020.. I just can't get them out 😭

  • The left bag literally claim because santa postoperatively back than a grouchy greece. oceanic, paltry start

  • Scarbs is the man.

  • renault: write that down, write that down!!

  • Next is the sweet topic : They should cover more on the types of turbocharging setup that the constructors use ?

  • I have no idea what they're talking about but I'm fascinated.

  • Renault’s pu running on 800 rpm lower for increasing engine reliability. But it doesn't help much though

  • Low RPM - LOW rwear rate ?

  • Please ban split turbos, otherwise Mercedes will win the championship for ever

  • La presión de los 2 redbull sobre Hamilton (porque Botas esta en otro mambo) esta siendo apabullante; aquello va a ocasionar que siga cometiendo errores. Redbull quiere que Verstapen salga campeón y que Checo haga el trabajo sucio con Hamilton. Por otro lado, toda latinoamerica quiere que Checo salga campeón. Saludos de Bolivia!!!

  • A few questions for you and Scarbs. 1. How much impact does the airbox structure impact the effectiveness of the rear wing in F1? For example, Red Bull's Azerbaijan stepped rear wing seems to focus on generating downforce at the centre. Would the air box allow aero downforce to be generated at the centre at slow speed (eg 200km/h) reducing high speed drag? How much does Alpine's "I ate the cookies" air box alter this flow vs Red Bull's. 2. F1 ICE air inlets physically alter across the rev range to better tune the engine performance. What sort of length adjustment is made, and given the rate of rev change in F1 ICE's, how is this physically done? 3. Could a Ducati MotoGP Holeshot style manual suspension lowering system work on an F1 car, lowering the tail out off the line, and out of low speed corners? Would it be legal? I recall Martin Brundle making a comment about a car sitting down at the rear entering the main straight at Monaco (on replay at the time I agreed that it did look lower than normal).

  • Very well done video guys thanks

  • In 1981 I work for NTS Racing in LongBeach Ca. or Engine guy was Jim Ward was a old Offy guy and won at the speedway with Mark Donahue in i think 1973 ?? anyway they try a split Turbo on the Offy. the compressor on the Intake Side an the Turbine on the Ex. Side in the late 60 or early. this is not new.

  • Ugh Sam Collins is the worst Said noone ever!

  • M.B. aluminum alloy, Scandium?

  • Why is what was once the greatest sport in the world is so boring

  • Why we don't see rear cameras from Lance and Max?

  • Absolutely love the Tech Talk guys. But I'll admit it got a tad confusing referencing Mercedes' split turbo origins in the middle of the Honda talk. Other than that, absolutely stellar segment and I can't wait for more.

  • Finally not some watered down explanation on F1 tech. I can Nerd out on this for Hours

  • Great show guys. Aside from gear changes on the paddles, How many times does an F1 driver have to make changes on the steering wheel per lap?

  • Honda engine plating was done in Kumamoto (motorcycle department).

  • So Merc watched the Wall-E Movie and designed there Engine after it intressting

  • imagine to optimize a VW beatle boxer engine with actual tech but somehow stick to the layout of the original motor block. new materials, 3d printed light weight pistons, prechamber injection and ignition, port injection, isolated output ports to transport maximum heat to a turbo, combined with an electric generator. a compressor driven from an electric motor, or two. but maybe keeping it air cooled?

  • A crucial part they skipped over is how the Honda engines were designed pre-2017. The most ingenious thing and perhaps dumb at the same time, about the size-zero engine was that the turbo compressor was within the V-bank. Also it wasn't just a normal automobile turbo compressor, it was an axial compressor. Obviously it failed but had it worked it would have been sick af.

  • This is easily the best Tech Talk video.

  • Please make Tech Talks an hour-long weekly show.

  • This fascinating

  • 14:45 Ah yes the time Checo exploded

  • If you want to learn more about the 2019 Ferarri engine you should watch a video of donut media named something like: how Ferrari got better without cheating. It really explains the fuel flow meter and how Ferarri took advantage of a blind spot in the systeem

  • "So, I've drawn some...simplified...Formula One engines." Sadly, a statement that hardly ever comes up in every-day conversation!

  • 🤣

  • At the end of the day, the engineers have the hardest job. They’re responsible for the driver AND the machine

  • For the sake of the sport, I hope the 2025 power unit is a naturally aspirated V10. The turbo hybrids are too expensive, too uneven in performance,, and don't sound as spectacular

  • I want more. This is what I have been waiting for, the latest in Formula 1 ingenuity. I always wanted to learn the secrets of F1 Tech while it is fresh and new. Very Interesting. Formula 1 competition produces some of the best engineers more than any other industry.

  • I'm still waiting for subtitles in Spanish!!!

  • Why are the engine/power unit regulations written so tightly that innovation around broader engine architecture is stifled?

  • I’m pretty sure that Mercedes were doing illegal oil burning in the first 4 years or so of the new formula. It’s the only rational explanation for how they were 2.2 to even 2.5 seconds a lap faster. They were very careful to not show this off, but when Rosberg and Hamilton were going at each other it would be on display. It also explains the “party modes”, where they could dial up as much power as they needed. I find it hard to believe that every single other team were incapable of giving them trouble. Not till many years later anyways. The fact that Ferrari had to result to flat out cheating to contend is very telling.

  • It's amazing that Mercedes engineers invented WALL-E!

  • I didn't know that Phil Collins knew so much about F1 engines. ;-)

  • Just show us the HP differences between the teams 🙌

  • 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍🏽 great INFORMATION❗👀

  • Sad sticky uppy bits noises

  • Im actually surprised the engines are so different regarding intercooling and the air intake. I assumed the formula was so close that they were all very similiar

  • Mercedes PU looks like WALL-E

  • These two geeks need to come up with a podcast☺️

  • I've noticed Renault sounds different to other cars. It sounds more electric more and mechanical than other cars. Anyone know why?

  • And here I am, being proud of checking the valve clearance on my motorcycle.

  • Boooo...bring back v10

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  • First thing i thought of when i saw the mercedes power unit was Wall-E

  • Brake magic a bad idea for Mercades ? This is what was suspected in Bottas failure in monaco to remove the wheel from the car. This same process of over stressing the materials by excessive heat in the hub fused the wheel onto the car making it impossible to remove it duuring the race. This could have been brought about by driver racing style,track tempertures,the tight layout of the track, or leaving the brake majic on in the race.

  • Is it me, or does the Mercedes PU look like Wall-E?

  • Are power units more powerful than engines? How are they different?

  • Nice to see the techies in charge of Tech Talk

  • This is about my level of technicality. So interesting, great job guys!

  • Wow nice video about the 1990 power units! Or whatsup with the quality

  • if the guy on the right hadn't acted as the auxillary pointer, none of that would have made sense.

  • I would love to hear about the 2025 PU specs, if they exist yet

  • As my 2010 c-class already had a turbo, I’m surprised merc hpp had to approach the truck division for insight to turbos. Im not too familiar with them in themselves, but is it correct to assume that has something to do with the compression/boost being more on par with trucks than with road cars?

  • I've been to Cranfield and seen the very Pegasus engine they talk about here and it is truly an engineering masterpiece; really cool that engineers may have taken inspiration from it.

  • Great video guys excellent info about the power unit.

  • What? Split turbos exist in regular AMG road cars now.

  • I love this stuff! It's so funny how Sam Collins always listens so enthusiastically to Craig Scarborough! Sam should consider renaming himself to Noddy^^ haha

  • Sam- "there are a lot of rumors about Mercedes opting for a split turbine layout" 5:32 He meant to say Ferrari, right?

  • Ahhhh I hate it when you say power unit Just call it a fricken engine

  • Very little detail an any of these explanations and in some respects totally wrong

  • I want more tech talk about engines, please And suspension

  • 黒人うぜぇなにもわかってないのに

  • 7:30 When a rumor starts saying Mercedes engineers didn't know much about turbochargers in '2013-2012', you know it's not true. One of the key moments for Mercedes was designing and testing turbocharged engines in 2011 without knowing the specs. In 2012's summer break the FIA/F1 announced the engine specs for 2014; Mercedes was already ahead at this point.

  • I love Sam. Such a smart and respectful guy

  • I can see these all the day

  • *SAM* Collins +1.... Move over Chris Harris. Sam has the sharp wit, great accent, great knowledge, *AND* much better hair!